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Job Profile of Commercial Apprentice (CA)

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  • Commercial Apprentices are trained as a sort of multi skilled supervisors in the Commercial branch.
  • 25%  of  the  posts  in  the  categories  of  Commercial  Inspectors,  Claims  Inspectors,  Rates  Inspectors,  Chief  Booking/Parcel/Goods  Clerks  in  GP 4200  will  be  filled  by  recruitment  as  Commercial  Apprentices. (Ref 1)
  • They will be given 2 year training in different categories of working of Commercial branch - training in duties of Commercial clerks, parcel clerks, goods clerks, catering, commercial inspectors. 
  • They may be put to work independently also in these posts during training.
  • Job profile: After 2 years training they will be posted normally as Chief Commercial/Parcel/Goods Clerk even though they can be posted as Commercial inspectors also in principle.
  • Career path :
  • Next promotion will be to Parcel/Goods supervisor in GP 4600. Future promotions to managerial (Gazetted) posts are based on departmental examinations.

Assistant Commercial Manager >>

Divisional  Commercial Manager >>

Senior Divisional  Commercial Manager

Recruitment (Ref 1)

  • Out of total 25  %  of  the  post  in  Commercial  Inspectors,  Claims  Inspectors,  Rates  Inspectors,  Chief  Booking/Parcel/Goods  Clerks  in  GP 4200 ,  10% will be filled through  Traffic Apprentices selected through Limited  Departmental  Competitive  Examination  (LDCE) from  amongst  serving  staff  amongst  serving  staff  who are graduates  in  Commercial  Department  (other  than  Ministerial)  upto  40  year  of  age.1
  • 15%  plus  shortfall  ,  if  any,  against  LDCE  quota  as  above,  by  direct  recruitment  through  the  Railway  Recruitment  Boards(RRBs).

Qualification for Direct Recruitment: Degree from recognized university or equivalent. Diploma  in  Rail  Transport  and  Management  from  the  Institute  of  Rail  Transport  will  be  an  additional  desirable  qualification.

Selection Process : Written Examination and Document Verification.

Salary and other perks

(i)

Pay Scale

9300-34800

(ii)

Grade Pay

4200

(iii)

Initial Pay

9300

(iv)

Total Pay (i) + (ii )

13500

Other Allowances depend on various conditions and hence cant be stated uniformly. Other major allowances include :

DA on Total Pay above

Transport Allowance

House Rent Allowance(if not provided with quarters)

Deductions from salary include 10% of total Pay towards New Pension scheme.

References

1.   Rule 130 of  Indian  Railway  Establishment  Manual Chapter  I 

Comments

Respected Sir, I got

Respected Sir,
I got selected finally for CA around three month back from RRB Chandigarh, but didn't't get any correspondence from NR Hqs. Now, should I contact personally to NR or wait for their letter. Can you give expected date of joining. 
Moreover I think the duration of 2 years training of CA is  more . Is there any possibility of reduction of training period in future or there is change in amount of stipend.
In one of comments of this page it is given that in some of the divisions the time to be promoted to next grade pay is more than 10 yrs, is it true.
Thanks 

hi  can you tell me about

hi 

can you tell me about your preparation of CA/TA what should you prepare n which books

n also past papers or something material that useful for me i am also applied for same n my exam coming in next month

nishant joshi

09427563772

With the decision of Railway

With the decision of Railway Board regarding the seniority of commercial apprentice i.e. they will be placed below 4200, has created confusion as the main intention of Railways were to bring up in senior supervisors level in quickest time, so that they were available for middle management in Railways, but now they are placed at the bottom of 4200 and there is no exam being conducted for 4600 as the promotion to employee is being given purely in seniority so it will took almost 10 more years to come to the grade of 4600.It seems that Railways is on the suicidal path. God help the Railways

Thanks

  

With the decision of Railway

With the decision of Railway Board regarding the seniority of commercial apprentice i.e. they will be placed below 4200, has created confusion as the main intention of Railways were to bring up in senior supervisors level in quickest time, so that they were available for middle management in Railways, but now they are placed at the bottom of 4200 and there is no exam being conducted for 4600 as the promotion to employee is being given purely in seniority so it will took almost 10 more years to come to the grade of 4600.It seems that Railways is on the suicidal path. God help the Railways

Thanks

  

Good evening sir,            

Good evening sir,

                               kindly you provide me a preliminary examination date of employment notice 03/2012            for CA/TA/GG . thanks 

 

Sir,what are the posts in

Sir,what are the posts in Indian railways for B.Sc 1st year passed candidates?please say.Is there any news for recruitment in these posts?

try applying for all the

try applying for all the graduate level jobs in RRB recruitment. you will get a good job. apply both technical and non - technical.

Technician Signal.

Technician Signal.

Sir, I have applied for post

Sir,

I have applied for post of Commercial Apprentice published this year (2012).

Shall be very grateful, if you can kindly advise how to prepare for CA, and what could be good reference books.

Thanks in advance for guidance, as this will be useful for all aspirants...

See

The Vadodara Division on the

The Vadodara Division on the behest of Unions and corrupt officers has given the seniority to HBC over CBC only in booking/luggage cadres, Hope the Railway Board will take the decision on the seniority issue soon.

Dont blindly accuse anybody.

Dont blindly accuse anybody. I will not get you anywhere.

dear sir,       i have been

dear sir,

      i have been selected as a commercial apprentice in rrb muzaffarpur. presently i have been working as a tax assistant (pb- 5200 - 20200 gp- 2400) since 2 years in central excise. i got my 'noc' which  i submitted in verification. I want to know what will be my pay during training as commercial apprentice. will it less than my present pay? or i will get equal or more than that of my present pay.

                    waiting for your kind advice.

 

 

thanking you.

For First two years of period

For First two years of period of training pay will be less than what you get now, because stipend only is provided in GP 2800. After this period it willl be more than what you get now.

dear sir,         when the

dear sir,

        when the division will be alloted to rrb muzaffarpur ta/ca whose  result was declared on

31.03.2012 verification was held on 01.05.2012 & 02.05.2012 and after verification final result was declared on 31.05.2012.

  Dear Sir/Madam,        

 

Dear Sir/Madam,
           I have been selected for the verification as commercial apprentice in kolkata rrb through 2 level exams held on 5/12/2010 and 22/1/2012 respectively. My verification date was on 27/4/2012.  I want to know when will the final panel be declared ,when the final panel candidate will get the appontment letter  & after how much time will he/she join to his/her job?

 

It can be few months . Will

It can be few months . Will vary depending on the Division/Railways.

SIR/MADAM, I will be thankful

SIR/MADAM, I will be thankful if you kindly tell me the maximum time span bcoz already around 4 months gone after my verification..

Nobody can say the maximum

Nobody can say the maximum span as some times the process gets delayed for one or other reason.

ok, thanx sir  

ok, thanx sir

 

what does the  " running

what does the  " running allowance " means in the allowance discussion of commercial apprentice? 

I have been selected for

I have been selected for SE(signal) from RRB Mahendrughat .my document verification was over on 29/11/2011.samastipur division is alloted for me before 3 months .but till date i have not received letter for medical.i'm getting frustrated because ,if i'll be rejected in medical then my job plus 1 year valuable time will be gone.who will be responsible for that if it happens.they should take medical earlier like document verification.then they should tell to wait.

if any one got samastipur division ,plz contact me on mob no:09954437282

Sir,  Following is an

Sir, 

Following is an abstract from this website link RB Orders  . 

Revision of Training Modules of Supervisors Date of effect

Circular Info

Date: 

 Fri, 02/03/2012

RBE No: 

 27/2012

Circular Subject: 

 Revision of Training Modules of Supervisors

Ref: (i) Board's letter No. E(MPP)2009/3/10 dated 03.06.2011
(ii) Board's letter No. E(MPP)2009/3/16 dated 15.01.2010
(iii) Board's letter No. E(MPP)2009/3/12 Pt. dated 21.12.2009
1. Board vide their letters referred above have revised the training period for Supervisors from 18 months to 12 months and some of the Railway have sought clarification whether the revised training is applicable to the staff who are already undergoing training or for those being inducted in future batches. The matter has been considered and it has been decided that the revised training period will be applicable to future batches from the date of issue of the letter quoted above.

​Sir, does it mean that the training period of CA/ TA has been reduced to 01 year, if yes will the initial stipend will be fixed ar 9300+4200= 13500,

​Thanks 

This circular refers to JEs

This circular refers to JEs only. TA/CA training period has not been reduced.

Respected Sir, I got selected

Respected Sir,

I got selected finally for CA around three month back from RRB Chandigarh, but didn't't get any correspondence from NR Hqs. Now, should I contact personally to NR or wait for their letter. Can you give expected date of joining. 

Moreover I think the duration of 2 years training of CA is  more . Is there any possibility of reduction of training period in future or there is change in amount of stipend.

In one of comments of this page it is given that in some of the divisions the time to be promoted to next grade pay is more than 10 yrs, is it true.

Thanks 

is tis possible that if the

is tis possible that if the candidate wants to work in delhi only he or she has any chance of that he/she wil be posted once cleared aal the exam for commercial clerk..

Dear Abhinav  It depends on

Dear Abhinav 

It depends on what grounds you have been selected in the Railways, If it is through the RRB then post selection you may be posted to a division of a Zonal Railway whose  vacancy was filled through the RRB exam you appeared for . And if it is on compassionate grounds then the Division your parent was working in ,will be alloted to you. Even in this case one can never be sure securing a  posting   as CC at Delhi as it depends on the vacancy position. Once selected for the post of commercial clerk you will be directed to the personal branch (Establishment section ) of a particular Division, they will be the ones who will let u know the vacancy position .

sir, the promotion in

sir,

the promotion in Railways are zone wise or Division wise or station wise. Moreover, the time for these promotion is different for each zone/ division/ station or it is same for Indian railway.

The transfer in railways is within allotted zone or within allotted division or All India basis.

As read in this page is there any chance of reduction of apprentice period of CA/ TA.

Thank You Sir.

The answere differs according

The answere differs according to category. For TA/CA, transfer and promotions are within the Division. Once they are promoted to GAZETTED posts, transfers will be within zone or even Indian railways.

Firstly Thanks for reply

Firstly Thanks for reply Sir,

Sir,

if the promotion of CA/TA are division wise, then does it means two persons of same batch (same joining date)  allotted to different division would   be promoted on different date? 

Yes,it is possible and it

Yes,it is possible and it happends often.

Good' ing Sir, Though it is

Good' ing Sir,

Though it is not possible to get wished division on fresh appointment as CA/ TA, as it is sole authority of Hqs NR, can you give idea which division in NR has fast promotion in CA/ TA cadre.

Thank you.

This is unpredictable as it

This is unpredictable as it depends on vaacancies coming in future.

Has English been taken out

Has English been taken out from the syllabus of CEN No. 03/2012 ?

Pls Reply

Depends on RRB. Some RRBs

Depends on RRB. Some RRBs have English, some dont have.

pls refer para 7.04 of the

pls refer para 7.04 of the CEN No 3/2012.

Dear Sir/Madam,            I

Dear Sir/Madam,
           I have been selected for the verification as commercial apprentice in kolkata rrb through 2 level exams held on 5/12/2010 and 22/1/2012 respectively. My verification date was on 27/4/2012.  I want to know when the final panel will be declared & the process after the verification. I will be thankful to you if you kindly give me these information.

RRB may publish final panel

RRB may publish final panel soon. But therocess after this can take many many months and can vary from division to division. Next RRB will advise the panel to the CPO of the zone concerned. CPO allot thedivision and send the file to division and division conduct medical , verification and give appointment.

i want to know the detailed

i want to know the detailed syllabus of pharmacist 
which books r good for preparing  these exams.

How much time will it take to

How much time will it take to recruit the TA/CA/ASM whose forms were filled recently in month of may_june 2012.....?

Whole process can take 12-24

Whole process can take 12-24 months.

What pay do you get during

What pay do you get during training period of TA ?

Dear sir,  Plz tale me where

Dear sir, 

Plz tale me where The CA/TA are works, like in Divisional Offices or in Stations. Also tale me the Promotion Structure of CA/TA and changing rules of Pay Scales.

 

Thanking You,

Alisha. 

Ranchi(Jharkhand)

Dear alisha,can u contact me

Dear alisha,can u contact me on 09031316442 or nnitishsahu@gmail.com i want to ask u some little question. are u a rly emp.? must contact on my mail

Mostly in stations. Promotion

Mostly in stations. Promotion is given in the above article.

  sir, im havin -4 vision in

 

sir,
im havin -4 vision in both eyes so am i eligible for ca/ta posts?

See

See here: http://indianrailwayemployee.com/content/medical-examination-candidates-appointment-non-gazetted-railway-services

You are eligible for CA, but not TA(TA comes under medical A2 and CA in C1 classification).

Respected Sir,              

Respected Sir,

                               I want to know that what is the training period of a commercial apprentice. Is it reduced by  two        years to one year.Because I heard that some divisions like Bhavnagar @ Rajkot have already joined of those candidates who were completed only one year of their apprenticeship. Is it wrong or right? please clarify me Sir.

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